Origin Journey Tour, tipps, ideas and solutions

  • Dear players,


    the virtual tour goes into the next round and our beatiful tourguide has another task for you. Since the idea of this event is for you guys to team up and work together I thought I open this thread for you where you can gather your ideas and theories and get some tipps from me if you are stuck :)


    Remember to submit your answers individually even if you found the solution as a team. This way you not only increase your chances of winning a price, we also give out a community wide bonus if we reach 500 answers!

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  • Do not forget your (possible) participation comes with a price. Just read the terms and conditions. It's not 100% free.

    Still not even understanding what we would (possibly) participating in even after seeing the announcement the other day. I was under the (incorrect) impression this was another type of event such as the one from this past summer, but based on this post I gather it is not.

  • Do not forget your (possible) participation comes with a price. Just read the terms and conditions. It's not 100% free.

    Can you please elaborate? If you claim something like that here, you need to elaborate what you mean otherwise I have to see this as spreading of false information.



    Still not even understanding what we would (possibly) participating in even after seeing the announcement the other day. I was under the (incorrect) impression this was another type of event such as the one from this past summer, but based on this post I gather it is not.

    I can further elaborate if you want to :)
    So overall it is some sort of online treasure hunt. Every day we post a small tweet with some tipps. You read the tipps and think about it with the other players. Everyday we are looking for an icon or a picture we hid somewhere on our site, discord or maybe the wiki. The tipps give you a hint where they are, if you found it, you take a screenshot of it, go to the gleam link that is in the post and send us the screenshot in addition with a comment about where you found it :)

    Die Räder meines Zuges drehen sich langsam aber stetig.

    Wettschulden sind Ehrenschulden, aktueller Kochbuchcounter: 14 Gerichte!

  • Can you please elaborate? If you claim something like that here, you need to elaborate what you mean otherwise I have to see this as spreading of false information.

    Quote: "

    Door deel te nemen aan deze Gleam-weggeefactie geef je toestemming dat jouw persoonlijke informatie (zoals naam, verzendgegevens en shirtmaat) verzameld en gebruikt magen worden met als enig doel het verzenden van beloningen als je eerste"


    I will admit the wording by RN-is a bit ambiguous, but why would I have to share my personal data with you upfront?

  • Quote: "

    Door deel te nemen aan deze Gleam-weggeefactie geef je toestemming dat jouw persoonlijke informatie (zoals naam, verzendgegevens en shirtmaat) verzameld en gebruikt magen worden met als enig doel het verzenden van beloningen als je eerste"


    I will admit the wording by RN-is a bit ambiguous, but why would I have to share my personal data with you upfront?

    Since I don't speak dutch I have to ask you to translate that for me :)

    Die Räder meines Zuges drehen sich langsam aber stetig.

    Wettschulden sind Ehrenschulden, aktueller Kochbuchcounter: 14 Gerichte!

  • Since I don't speak dutch I have to ask you to translate that for me :)

    Since this is what triggered my original post, you will have to find a translator yourself.

    It's a perfectly fine quote from the Dutch advertisement. I didn't invent it.


    But since you suggested I was posting, and I quote, "false information", you better find the translation of this very own RN-statement on the double.

  • Since this is what triggered my original post, you will have to find a translator yourself.

    It's a perfectly fine quote from the Dutch advertisement. I didn't invent it.


    But since you suggested I was posting, and I quote, "false information", you better find the translation of this very own RN-statement on the double.

    If you are claiming that taking part of the gleam event is not for free, but then refuse to further elaborate while posting a statement in another language, then we can't continue here.

    So there are two opitions here. We either shift this discussion into the NL section of the forum where our NL CM can look at it, or you tell me in english what the problem is.

    Die Räder meines Zuges drehen sich langsam aber stetig.

    Wettschulden sind Ehrenschulden, aktueller Kochbuchcounter: 14 Gerichte!

  • I do nor believe the poster is talking about a monetary cost(as in needing to purchase gold), rather privacy cost. Based on the Google (un-official) translation of the snippet the poster has quoted earlier, it appears the poster has an issue with the quoted "Terms and Conditions" (T&C) indicating they need to disclose personal information (name, postal address, shirt size) for prizes. Though may be something is lost in translation as the odd wording seems to indicate this information is required to participate regardless if a prize is won or not. My guess is this what the poster takes issue too. However, I do not see such a clause in the English version of the T&C and can't view the actual Dutch version of the T&C.


    Personally, I'd would prefer a virtual prize (plus game time, gold, etc.) over a physical prize.

  • I do nor believe the poster is talking about a monetary cost(as in needing to purchase gold), rather privacy cost. Based on the Google (un-official) translation of the snippet the poster has quoted earlier, it appears the poster has an issue with the quoted "Terms and Conditions" (T&C) indicating they need to disclose personal information (name, postal address, shirt size) for prizes. Though may be something is lost in translation as the odd wording seems to indicate this information is required to participate regardless if a prize is won or not. My guess is this what the poster takes issue too. However, I do not see such a clause in the English version of the T&C and can't view the actual Dutch version of the T&C.


    Personally, I'd would prefer a virtual prize (plus game time, gold, etc.) over a physical prize.

    Bingo, you have hit the nail on the head.


    If there is no such clause (relating to the privacy) in the English T&C, then it begs the question why it has one for the Dutch (and possibly other nationalities as well.)


    But since Maselbart appears not interested, I have no problem with laying the issue at rest.


    I'm not participating :-)

  • Well physical prices need to be sent somewhere, so yeah in case you win a physical price these infos are required.
    But as far as I know in Germany you can also give the adress of an anomynos postbox or after winning contact the team and talk about other possible ways of distribution.

    Die Räder meines Zuges drehen sich langsam aber stetig.

    Wettschulden sind Ehrenschulden, aktueller Kochbuchcounter: 14 Gerichte!

  • Well physical prices need to be sent somewhere, so yeah in case you win a physical price these infos are required.
    But as far as I know in Germany you can also give the adress of an anomynos postbox or after winning contact the team and talk about other possible ways of distribution.

    Sure.


    I did win the "spot the difference"-contest earlier this year (what was it, spring?) and so I did get the request for my name and adress after the fact. (oddly enough a request for my phone-number followed after I had given those, which I refused to give, which led to me being given the message that if I wasn't willing to give my phone-number, I might not receive the prize!)

    I still refused ("OK, then no goody bag, there are limits after all") so you MIGHT get an idea why I am suspicious, AND claim participating is NOT FREE...


    In this contest, a participant has to approve up-front to gave name and adress (instead of after winning anything) and I can only hope that RN has decided after the earlier contest that a phone-number really is not necessary to send any package over.


    As you may see and/or admit: my remark about participating being not completely free comes from experience in dealing with these things with you (plural), not from some vague imagination.


    NB: my goody bag from the spring-contest arrived just fine, and without delay, despite me not having given my telephone number to RN.

    Thanks for that.

  • Well physical prices need to be sent somewhere, so yeah in case you win a physical price these infos are required.
    But as far as I know in Germany you can also give the adress of an anomynos postbox or after winning contact the team and talk about other possible ways of distribution.

    That is understandable and is fine if the participant wins a prize. The issue at hand is requiring this information just to participate in the event.

  • I did win the "spot the difference"-contest earlier this year (what was it, spring?) and so I did get the request for my name and adress after the fact. (oddly enough a request for my phone-number followed after I had given those, which I refused to give, which led to me being given the message that if I wasn't willing to give my phone-number, I might not receive the prize!)


    At least in the US requesting phone number is not odd as the shippers (UPS/FedEx/DHL) usually require that piece of information. The shippers can send courtesy notifications regarding the delivery (expected date, out for delivery, delivered, etc.) or have a means to contact you in the event of an issue (delayed due to weather, traffic, civil unrest, etc.) or a driver unfamiliar with your area and relying on GPS is hopeless lost and is unable to locate the delivery address (very common in the rapidly growing Phoenix metro area).

  • At least in the US requesting phone number is not odd as the shippers (UPS/FedEx/DHL) usually require that piece of information. The shippers can send courtesy notifications regarding the delivery (expected date, out for delivery, delivered, etc.) or have a means to contact you in the event of an issue (delayed due to weather, traffic, civil unrest, etc.) or a driver unfamiliar with your area and relying on GPS is hopeless lost and is unable to locate the delivery address (very common in the rapidly growing Phoenix metro area).

    It is the same in most of European countries with any delivery service other then post ( which is manny times unreliable ).
    All information are used only once for the package delivery and all data are handled in a GDPR compliant way.

  • I can also confirm this for germany, here it is normal to give an additional phone number so the postman can contact you if you are not there, don't hear the bell, or if they can't find you place (what happens a lot...)

    Die Räder meines Zuges drehen sich langsam aber stetig.

    Wettschulden sind Ehrenschulden, aktueller Kochbuchcounter: 14 Gerichte!

  • PLEASE STOP ABUSING ASKING US TO TACK FROM US ALL DATA. when i say no, i don't to give i you nada, then it's my right to refuse you to give you data. i made complain GDPR